5415我又要来说二句话了,希望大家能够耐心的讨论问题,顺耳的话不能多听,逆耳的话多多益善!(1分)

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哈哈,连CJ这样的大侠都出面了?看来这个帖子影响力够大的。CJ估计也是在论坛上潜水?
2年将拜你所赐,推荐了ASTA,现在还在受惠,真是多谢多谢!
不知道还会不会有老的大侠出来?Cakk、茶叶蛋、歪就歪以及Pegasus是不是都告别论坛了?
 
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我是一个中专生,我能回答一些问题,我上什么大富翁。研究生有什么了不起。中国有几个
来得出手的软件,你做的有吗?
 
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我是本科生,但我认为我的工作学历底的也能做。
前提是由我教他们,教不会主要是我的问题。
但让他们自己学再做,成功的比例应该不会高。
 
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[purple]一家之词,是人才哪儿都埋没不了你的,无论在哪个行业。[/purple]
看看李阳!
 
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5415家中:
5415道:“妈,你想要一个怎么样的儿媳?美貌的,还是贤惠的,OR高大、OR魁梧,
OR小家碧玉?”
5415他妈道:“能生就行了,管她什么样的?”
 
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幽默
我觉得首先要端正态度,不要摆资格,特别是现在技术日新月异的时代,任何人只要认真学都可以成为
高手,高手不学习也会落伍,不管你是中专生还是本科生。现实只是学习的环境是有好有坏的。只要别人强,就要汲取他
的经验,不管是本科生还是中专生,5415别把时间寻求心理平衡上,在你喋喋不休的时候,可能
有很多人超过你了,这里面有本科生,也有中专生,高中生,甚至小学生。明白了吗??不要心中
不平衡,你的话,只能代表你已经跟不上了。。。。
 
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幽默
我觉得首先要端正态度,不要摆资格,特别是现在技术日新月异的时代,任何人只要认真学都可以成为
高手,高手不学习也会落伍,不管你是中专生还是本科生。现实只是学习的环境是有好有坏的。只要别人强,就要汲取他
的经验,不管是本科生还是中专生,5415别把时间寻求心理平衡上,在你喋喋不休的时候,可能
有很多人超过你了,这里面有本科生,也有中专生,高中生,甚至小学生。明白了吗??不要心中
不平衡,你的话,只能代表你已经跟不上了。。。。
 
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幽默
我觉得首先要端正态度,不要摆资格,特别是现在技术日新月异的时代,任何人只要认真学都可以成为
高手,高手不学习也会落伍,不管你是中专生还是本科生。现实只是学习的环境是有好有坏的。只要别人强,就要汲取他
的经验,不管是本科生还是中专生,5415别把时间寻求心理平衡上,在你喋喋不休的时候,可能
有很多人超过你了,这里面有本科生,也有中专生,高中生,甚至小学生。明白了吗??不要心中
不平衡,你的话,只能代表你已经跟不上了。。。。
 
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这也来说两句,这世上任何事都不能走向两个极端,不能说中专生就一定不如本科生,也不能说许多中专生都比本科生肯学习,比本科生强.
拿本人的经历来说吧,本人是一个专业极偏的大专生,和一般的中专生差不多,过现在在一家香港上市公司做开发部主管,手下也有一些本科生,大专生,
还有研究生,有过本科生不过试用期的事,也有一个硕士生没有过试用期.但是我确不是想说中专生比本科生好,
因为在实际工作中真的发现大多数本科生的思维比一般在大专生的确高出不少,更别说中专生了,
我能在这里立足花去了我比别人多出不知道许多的精力,可以说让我忙得没有时间去考试,没有时间去学习.
 
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CAO,总算看完了
我不想评价什么,看看你们的观点,取其精华,弃其糟粕!
 
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加入WTO以后,我看只有像5415这样的[red]可以用英文写文章,可以同声翻译[/red],[red]翻阅过高级口译
的五本书籍[/red]的社会精英才能生存
在5415老兄的另一篇帖子里已经表现了他流畅的英文写作水平
http://www.delphibbs.com/delphibbs/dispq.asp?lid=683760
尽管同声翻译家5415先生事先已经照顾到了我等菜鸟的水平,提供了中英文我对照,但我还是看的晕头
眼花,无奈之下只有拿金山快译来帮我了。抱歉,我以前总认为这些全文翻译软件都是垃圾,翻译
出来的东西不忍猝读,现在我不得不改变旧思想旧观念了。因为我发现金山快译真是一个超级准确
的翻译软件,其翻译出来的结果和我们著名的同声翻译家5415先生写出来的文章竟然有98%相似!不信大家可以看看:
[blue]这是5415 文章的第一段:[/blue]
唉,TC2.0/BC++3.1/BC++5.0,一路走来,现在使用DELPHI5.0和VC++5.0,真是唏嘘不已啊!
有些岁月真是永难忘怀啊......
Alas, TC2.0/ BC++3.1/ BC++5.0, all the way walk, now usage DELPHI5.0 is with the VC++5.0, is really a sigh without stop!
It is difficult that some years is really a always forget......
[red]金山快译翻的第一段[/red]:
Alas, TC2.0/ BC++3.1/ BC++5.0, all the way walk, now usage DELPHI5.0 is with the VC++5.0, is really a 唏嘘 without stop!
It is difficult that some years is really a 永 forget......
金山快译真是不错,建议大家都去买一个,以后再读同声翻译家5415先生写的E文就不会晕菜了
可以说,有了金山快译, [red]is really a sigh without stop![/red][:D]
附金山快译翻译结果(5415的E文原文请查看上面给的链接):

Alas, TC2.0/ BC++3.1/ BC++5.0, all the way walk, now usage DELPHI5.0 is with the VC++5.0, is really a 唏嘘 without stop!
It is difficult that some years is really a 永 forget......
The DEBUG past uses the do
S first from the tape to write the procedure( return someone to record of this?Wu 晓 for use by the military this wrote 50 ten thousand code,
Write 2.13, really fantastic!), then
use the MASM 5.0( at that time of pirate edition optics dish 60 do
llars per piece!),
Afterwards self-educated do
S is from the tape's QBASIC,( return to this language to can compile the independent EXE do
cument quarrel with person, 嘻 )
Afterwards, used the TURBO BASIC with the MS BASIC, go to the university empress contact the classic's Turbo Pascal 6!
Similar to Taiwanese Lee's 维 , data construction the course is with TP6 to pass of, 呵呵 .
then
the study ever become popular the world's TC2.0!then
contact C++, used the TC++3.0, the gross feel not very in the right( I have a classmate pour is
Always use it, and wrote the office 域 net the inside of four army chess war),
then
is to used to ascend at that time to beat the Borland C of the without equal in strength hand++3.1!
Afterwards, for the sake of that is ever and very great, and want to think the ridiculous reason now:plait game!呵呵 !Again get in touch withed the Watcom C++10.0,
then
, arrived the WINDOWS do
wn, use the VB3 first, and not only use the VB4( WIN3.11), then
VB5( this fashionable dresses is over the BC++5.0 disappointed!), everybody did not thought of, I go as far as toed to use with VB so many of release.In fact at use the VB4 of time, I have already packed the DELPHI2.0, and afterwards and again pack the DELPHI3.0, webmaster here to ever say the DELPHI2 mean, I very disagree, and ever spread very and widely of network blood-sucking vampire 2.41 is with DELPHI2 to write of!
I at use the DELPHI of time, have the classmate to recommend me to use the C++ BUILDER 1.0, but that is my complete quilt DELPHI the fan lived, be not willing to
Override the DELPHI study, and want to think now, and this select seem the exactitude!Because calculate what now of C++ BUILDER 5.0, use
FRAMEWORK still VCL structure, certainly, I now machine top, C++ the BUILDER still install.
I now the computer up install the complete set BORLAND the company's product.( 呵呵 , have a little to pile it on)
There is DELPHI 3( have no procedure demand that way, past use), DELPHI 5,( have the component nonsupport the DELPHI6)
DELPHI 6( pure study), JBUILDER 5, C++ BUILDER 5.5, INTERBASE 6.呵呵 .
Certainly, still have me always and very and very and very not favorite POWERBUILDER 8, I ever have 7 month times to developped the product with PB7,
Those seven months What a distress day!( smile) because I join the big construction of the set's time, procedure of this development to have already settle do
wned, and this let me
Very the favorite DELPHI is already uselessed!SIGH!!
PB7+ SQL 7, the United States come back old total say this assemble without equal in strength!He still says what PB of the patent that DATA WINDOW get is technicals,
Other people the technique of must not usage.嗤 !I use the affirmative ratio of DELPHI you to do
good!I wish.
Afterwards, be tired ofed the development work, entered the shanghai movement, and not made to weave the 程ed, and completely escape fromed the code world( certainly amateur
The oneself still playses, because I like to see the BORLAND with other development company contain what new technique presence), now, have the classmate to invite me
Come out to go abroad together, 呵呵 , I to go abroad the true none the interest!( I to it is very interested in that politics pour!!)
Recent, I prepare the Shanghai television station to go to work a period of time( may **** the 摄 to resemble to work with setting), and discover this work because of me
The contact face is very wide, certainly, the beautiful woman of television station is many is also a factor.( smile)
In fact I like the work that **** most go to infant park to go to!Should be there to be heaven of place!Despicable social interaction of none, every day
Face the naivete's child, that kind of the felling is certainly and very rod!( certainly, infant park teacher 99% certainly and again know for female, everybody my
Meaning), not know can my this wishes realize?( it is 30 years old to later on as far as possible work hard enter work in infant park, perhaps and at that time I have already get married
, alas....It is a pity that!呵呵 )
Before a few months, Is are ever 萌 hair test the transportation university the research the mind( ever return here hair is over son) that living, but, everybody
Know, and this test what graduate student is not jestingly.Want to think now, or calculated, perhaps be I am 25 years old of time, go to again to test!The human life can have several return
博 !Smile.
Alas, ever there is many dream, now all and very difficult realizes, and again have the many dream all and already far.....
The vicissitudes of fortune, huge is elusive, I,5415 perhaps is really an is very the common role is just?Such... just... just!

Welcome everybody to also write own and past, or ever fine recollection!Certainly, want to have relation with BORLAND company!
 

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挑拨大学生与中专生的关系?????
大家都是朋友,何必讨论如此无聊的话题呢。
 
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接受答案了.
 
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我以为:
衡量一个人、一个群体、乃至一个民族的价值在于,是否对于大多数人做出有益的“贡献”!
“贡献”打引号是因为其中不完全是,人类历史至今日,没有一定的资本是不能够做出“贡献”的、 没有回报的贡献也不能称其为贡献了。
学历、知识、技能等只是你去做你想做或不想做但必须做的一种手段而已,
5415先生,我对您不了解,就算你能用任何语言写出你自以为是的代码,就算你能口译、就算你能是中科院的院士、又怎么样了呢?
你做了些什么现在还在用、值得用的软件, 十年后,谁知道您?!
少花点时间在这自以为是,要和自己比,纵向、横向去比,纵向:三年前自己的水平,现在的水平 横向:同事的水平、同行的水平、同龄人的业绩,你的眼界太小了,呵呵 。
在中国,就因为您这样的人太多,自以为是、固步自封。

一个边远地区的写代码为生的人
2002年1月26日
 
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我靠!第一次来?5415是谁?大家有没有他的背景资料?说来听听!
 

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[h1]我觉得5415讲得有些道理,
90年我初中毕业时,我是全校第一名,7门功课,我总分比第二名高60分,
老师不让我考中专,可是没办法,
不考中专就只能辍学了,高中、大学是不可能再继续读下去了
现在,我当时的同学大都上了大学,(我们是重点中学,我们初中部的学生无疑是重点中的重点)
有10来个人进了清华北大之类的一流学府,也有好多人出国了
当时他们肯定是没办法和我比,现在我没办法和他们比!
到单位上班这么多年,我发现文凭确实相当重要。
虽然我通过自学,我自认为能力比本科生还要好。
但是社会就是社会,不是你认为怎么样就怎么样的。
重点大学的学生们可以被提升为经理,而我们只能打工而已。
所以我奉劝和我一样经历的人,起紧醒醒吧!
不要抱怨,不要消沉,接受社会的现实吧!
努力去考文凭、考证书、
最好是工作存点钱,去考研究生吧。
相信自己,我们的智商比所谓的本科生要高!
另外,成功不能只靠技术,
技术可以保证你有饭吃,但不能保证你成功!
争气啊!同志们!!![/h1]
 
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取百家之长,补己之短。
今之学者,专揭他人之短。
古之学者,专学他人之长。
 

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中国现状,没文凭真的很难阿
 
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to 5415:
"未来缺少的不是技术人才,而是什么?我想你应该明白吧?
技术?算什么?现在上海有许多公司奉行这样的原则:
不肯做的叫外地人做,做不来的请外国人做!"
嗨!嗨嗨!嗨嗨嗨!
我们国家之所以落后,就是技术上太差了!!!你看一下,可怜我们的战斗机发动机还要进口,
我们国家不是技术人员太多,而是太少了.我说的技术人员是真正的技术人员,不是跟在人
家后面的南郭先生.中国人讲人情事故,伟大的儒家把它发挥到了极至,又有什么用!人家用
几门大炮就把你轰上了天!毛主席的人情事故多厉害,可是和美国的高科技交锋只有招架
之功,无还手之力.西方国家,就是能够宽容技术人员不懂人情事故,一心一意搞技术,能够
取得成果的人更是可得到极高的荣誉声望和财富.
我们国家就是死板,解放思想喊了20年又有什么用呢?!
可怜我们现在一个世界级的科学家都没有.
我只想说: 抛弃那些偏见,以成果来分高低吧!
 

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